You get that, right? Stop assuming. 'Sony is denying gamers a choice' but keeping established franchises off of PlayStation by buying up publishers somehow ISN'T denying gamers a choice? Indeed, Microsoft's entire strategy seems to hinge on portraying itself as the underdog despite the fact it's trying to close what is by far the the most expensive buyout in video game history. Schulman suggests you learn the value of the old adage A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush.. Everyone wants to pay 70 for new releases on their playstation and would always want ownership for their games*, *Unless of course they buy their games digitally, in which case they're actually just leasing a non transferable license, Sony isn't really concerned, they're just playing the game correctly. They are using the success of Microsoft to just buy up the gaming industry. Same as Gamepass, theyll plow more money in than their direct competitors could ever match in order to dominate subscription gaming (read most gaming moving forward). Now I accept that they will likely have had a bucket load of money thrown at them in advance, but I highly doubt that it even touches the sides as to what they will eventually make. Some things need to be clarified here. It won't happen,but imagine if the XB division was forced to separate from the rest of Microsoftsomehow I think the $1 XB live gold gamepass upgrades would suddenly stop!. If anything you should be championing for Microsoft to actually do better in the console race if you care about making PlayStation better. Developers and publishers WANT to be aquired right now. Sony could be doing more but the strength of its first party catalogue over Xbox speak for itself. Very, very, different proposition. California is a state in the Western United States, located along the Pacific Coast.With nearly 39.2 million residents across a total area of approximately 163,696 square miles (423,970 km 2), it is the most populous U.S. state and the third-largest by area. It must be paying them well enough, and well as making Xbox money, otherwise no one would be interested in entering their games on to the service @Keyblade-Dan Pathetic comment. Won the most goty nominees and awards for that whole gen. @Keyblade-Dan Sony are the ones who told people to work harder to afford a PS3. The last thing any PlayStation gamer would want is the option to have gamepass appear on their console, let alone have to purchase an Xbox or gain access to it via streaming on hundreds of different devices. but GP would have to charge a real price as Sony would get a cut. @racinggamefanatic "Agreed. "says the 2 trillion dollar company bankrolling Gamepass & "Gamer" Phil Spencer buying up every major 3rd party publisher they can get their hands on to remove the choice of console they can play said 3rd party IP's & force them onto xbox or presumably Gamepass & X-cloud without a necessarily a native version on PS! The protagonist of Persona 5, canon name defaulting to Ren Amamiya in the remaster version of Persona 5 Royal, is a transfer student at Shujin Academy. Just like how Nintendo don't want it on the switch either. Watch people try to attack Sony over it and big up MS. Gamepass on PS would suck, it would offer less then what Plus offers as no way would MS port over the likes of Halo, Gears and Forza. Ns usamos cookies e outras tecnologias semelhantes para melhorar a sua experincia, personalizar publicidade e recomendar contedo. are as praised as sony? Cry me a river. Have Microsoft even made an offer regarding gamepass on playstation? Nothing says "underdog" quite like a trillion dollar corporation! You have deluted thoughts my friend. I just don't give a crap for the mediocrity they release as games. Subs seems nice but over saturated. It's the truth. They can also be played on your phone or internet browser. We're obviously talking about big business here, but do you actually agree with the arguments that are being pushed by either side? I think you are getting caught up in console wars a bit there. @AdamNovice they are going to be MS 1st party studios, of course MS is going to be in charge on how they are distributed. What PS first party games were actually developed in-house??? They can do like EA and Ubi does, make a subscription with games they make after they made their money in innitial sales. They do not know how to work otherwise, if not spraying the competition or taking it to themselves using brute force ie infinite money. That's like Disney Plus offering you a $1 subscription for two years and you going "yeah but after those two years how much will they charge me?" It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. I'm not upset. Most indie Devs probably want to be on GP for exposure at first, if you haven't spent much on your game (relatively speaking) but are unlikely to make much profit due to a crowded market then a lump sum from MS up front makes sense. People are just pointing out the fake friendly personality xbox has. Microsoft is the opposite. Sony have no internal studios other than those they've bought. Xbox's deal is complete even though it doesn't seem like it. And no hope so far with Sony who responds to MS acquisitions by purchasing two live service studios. Y'all know the ending to this story. I 'suppose' it would have to be streaming only, and if they are prepared to offer Sony the same revenue cut as anything else on the Sony store, then maybe theres something there if Microsoft really mean it. I have a PlayStation with a PlayStation plus extra sub and a series X with gamepass. I mean this was always going to Microsoft's end game with the Acti-Bliz purchase; get game pass on everything and anything via COD demand. Where is the benefit to them? This truly shocking revelation has been hammered home through a statement that Microsoft made to UK competition regulator CMA, in which the tech juggernaut says Sony "has chosen to block" Game Pass on its platforms. Sony are the ones who decided that 70/$70 would be the standard for PS5 games. In the majority of cases (excluding Apple of course), it's Microsoft Windows. Operation Jubilee or the Dieppe Raid (19 August 1942) was an Allied amphibious attack on the German-occupied port of Dieppe in northern France, during the Second World War.Over 6,050 infantry, predominantly Canadian, supported by a regiment of tanks, were put ashore from a naval force operating under protection of Royal Air Force (RAF) fighters.. They'd lose a lot of money by having it on their own platform. But if we are allowed to put Gamepass on Playstation, Playstation owners can also continue with CoD on Playstation. So to counter the many well made and varied arguments as to why GP is a bad for the industry, your counter argument is to call them fanboys. Which is it? why would game pass be on playstation? It gave Apple the cash flow that kept them alive until Steve Jobs cane back. The crisis affects them too, you know. They knew PS would say no. Are Microsoft really that out of touch with reality that they use this as an argument? Sony just bought Bungie for billions of dollars. Where has that nugget of rubbish come from? How they have made themselves, a TRILLION dollar juggernaut, the underdog feel good story is a masterclass. There must be a reason for that. And since it will become a game pass game it will probably be getting worse like most likely with every Microsoft game. I think you have missed something, @GuttyYZ. So they took the hit for everyone else. Why would they? No added bonuses for PS owners? Sony is just 1000% right. Whilst Xbox has a far larger user-base on PC these days, they are in no way the market leader. . @neitan Yes Game pass was created to grow quickly before the competition jumped in meaning Amazon,Apple and Google why Sony think they are a part of that group and insert themselves into that role is beyond me. Embarrassing frankly. I'm not saying every Xbox fan uses GP and they will still buy games physically or digitally but if it goes straight onto GP and the money it gets from MS doesn't touch the sides (unlikely I think or they wouldn't do it) then they'll have a harder time recouping their costs. What games exactly? Of course Sony doesnt want game pass on Playstation. Common sense is to buy the games I like. You say it's bad for the industry, based on what @The_Moose? So build game pass to get a streaming service level customer count of recurring revenue. They couldn't just be putting all the games that are on Gamepass on the PlayStation version - loss of sales, competing subscription service etc. Synonyms for compromise include agreement, settlement, concession, deal, terms, understanding, accommodation, arrangement, balance and negotiation. Plenty of places list the scores of all the games, if your really THAT into games. He doesn't have a clue what gamers want. Everyone is bringing their IP home for their own streaming service. There is no lack of knowledge, just maybe a lack of clarity @Fiendish-Beaver Fair enough, that makes much more sense! @Somebody Agreed. It's okay when Sony buys someone within their budget, but not okay when Microsoft buys someone within THEIR budget. You just have to look at the economy outside of usa. That's what is so absurd about this purchase. There are other examples of games seeing increased sales on Switch, PS, PC etc after going to gamepass because the GP users created a buzz for the game. I think I may have misworded what I was saying, @thefourfoldroot1. If they want to give gamers a choice, perhaps they should allow PS Plus onto Xbox. It is also the most populated subnational entity in North America and the 34th most populous in the world. "Oh but Sony have built such good relationships with so many developers. Ultimately, if the game isn't going to make the developers any money, being on Game Pass won't really help @Somebody Yeah that's why I said GP is good for indie Devs. If you dont mind playing crap half baked games I guess . Why are you even reading it if that isn't to your taste. @__jamiie Sony has never bought a developer that is valued at the same price of their ENTIRE company. Password requirements: 6 to 30 characters long; ASCII characters only (characters found on a standard US keyboard); must contain at least 4 different symbols; They just want your money. I pay for what I think it's worth it. @Sqush-Pare Xbox is the underdog to PlayStation. Its not like this was a hostile takeover of AB, they wanted to be aquired and Xbox was the one that made an offer they wanted. Lets stop the silly fanboy stuff. Ceres is as important as Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus or any of the other planets. So in all actuality its more like PlayStation vs [Xbox + PC]. I'm not into instant gratification at the cost of the future, even if it's just a hobby of mine. Bad for the industry as a whole and seems to turn many of its users into zealots who can't see a downside long term for paying 1 to play a AAA game. Lets not forget that Sony are asking for something they are NOT willing to give - complete parity in a Franchise. Of course they want gaming to make money. You think third party would have loved to stay at $60? Granted, a successful game might bring a lot of attention, but games (even small ones) still found success prior to Game Pass, and could just as easily do so now. so they can exclude anyone who doesn't own a PlayStation from playing their games. I personally prefer PlayStation when they are on their toes and have to try their hardest to win us over. If Sony were to accept this it would certainly raise suspicion of collusion taking place. I think gamepass and subscriptions like it are great for indie devs. The group is founded by the protagonist, Morgana, Ryuji Sakamoto and Ann Takamaki when they discover that the volleyball teacher of Shujin Academy, Suguru Kamoshida, has abused his students and molested Ann's friend, Shiho Suzui, leading to her attempted suicide which put her in a coma.However, since no other student, parent or Thank you! @Fiendish-Beaver Right, but like I mentioned in my post, what O/S (operating system) are all those PC's running on? @Would_you_kindly No I wouldn't be complaining about it because it would bring PS games to Xbox only gamers and/or other platforms to have access to some of the best games available on what you have Playstation owners would still get the 'best' console version if they only streamed their games to Xbox whilst Playstation owners get a 'downloadable, Local' experience. Halo, Gears, now Bethesda stuff and ultimately Activision? It's just weird to imagine. Some individuals trying to play like Sony's acquisition of Bungie is equal to Microsoft buying Bethesda & Activision AND keeping established IP's off of PlayStation is at all comparable is a sad and poorly thought-out comparison.Oh and trying to compare Sony making Timed Exclusive deals or getting Exclusive Content in games versus Xbox full-on gatekeeping Established IP's is an even stupider comparison. Saying all this talk now to make them look like the good guys for the every gamer and then when it eventually gets the green light next year there will be hundreds of games never coming to PS in the near future just like they're doing with Bethesda. At least when Sony & Nintendo acquire studios, at least they acquire studios they already had a close working relationship with AND/OR primarily made games only for Sony & Nintendo, OR in the case of Haven Studios & Savage Games, haven't made any games at all, thus acquiring them isn't taking away games from other platforms. X-BOX are getting a little bit antsy about it all now too.I have no doubts that the deal will go through, but they don't seem to be enjoying the attention. Buying multiplatform developers to keep products off the competition is so clearly not increasing choice, but in this age, some people are so unbeliebably blind they swallow all this, and you can see the usual ms apologists in here talking absolute bunk again.Such a shame people are so dumb. Hello, and welcome to Protocol Entertainment, your guide to the business of the gaming and media industries. Such games as Plague Tale 2 though can still get a lot of money via Sony purchases though. It seems like Microsoft is getting a little perturbed at how long this deal has taken to go through. I don't know what's funny about it. Netflix faces a similar problem in a different vertical. 374. This Friday, were taking a look at Microsoft and Sonys increasingly bitter feud over Call of Duty and whether U.K. regulators are leaning toward torpedoing the Activision Blizzard deal. MS want an effective subscription monopoly and are probably going to get it. Unless you're still at school relying on pocket money. I agree with MS - They have a method to bring their games to Playstation and its Sony that are BLOCKING MS from delivering their games their way How can they complain about not having MS made games when they block them. Xbox exclusive or not is completely irrelevant at this point. 3rd party/indie game's make up the majority of GamePass. Nintendo is the best publisher of this and last gen. Weird, cause I'm seeing lots of third party and double A games prices increasing.
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